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Help ID all these weirdos...

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:25 pm
by Shrimp
Caught all these fish today, but couldn't find a good ID to them... Anyone pls share your opinions!

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Re: Help ID all these weirdos...

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:27 pm
by Peace
Apart from the first picture, the rest are Mayan Cichlids. I'm not too sure what the first fish is but it looks kind of like a Redbelly tilapia (more pictures). Nice catches by the way. :D

Re: Help ID all these weirdos...

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:50 am
by patrick2405
Peace wrote:Apart from the first picture, the rest are Mayan Cichlids. I'm not too sure what the first fish is but it looks kind of like a Redbelly tilapia (more pictures). Nice catches by the way. :D
the first one somehow looks like a hybrid to me

Re: Help ID all these weirdos...

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:39 am
by Shrimp
Peace wrote:Apart from the first picture, the rest are Mayan Cichlids. I'm not too sure what the first fish is but it looks kind of like a Redbelly tilapia (more pictures). Nice catches by the way. :D
haha thanks, got no time for coastal fishing grounds so decide to do some inland waterways instead. The mayans doesn't look red!

Re: Help ID all these weirdos...

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:42 am
by Shrimp
patrick2405 wrote:
Peace wrote:Apart from the first picture, the rest are Mayan Cichlids. I'm not too sure what the first fish is but it looks kind of like a Redbelly tilapia (more pictures). Nice catches by the way. :D
the first one somehow looks like a hybrid to me
I think so too, 1st look I thought it was a juv green chromide. Lots of weird stuff out there.

Another one here

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Re: Help ID all these weirdos...

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:00 pm
by patrick2405
where do you fish?
Edit: Patrick, threadstarter requests that discussion to be kept on topic. Thanks for the co-operation. :)
- Peace

Re: Help ID all these weirdos...

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:25 pm
by Peace
Shrimp wrote:The mayans doesn't look red!
The red isn't always prominent or can be absent, I guess it can be due to the environment it dwells in.

Shrimp wrote:Another one here
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This one should be of the same species as the one in the first photo, it's lacking the reddish tinge though. Then again it could possibly be a crossbred cichlid.

Re: Help ID all these weirdos...

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:23 pm
by patrick2405
patrick2405 wrote:where do you fish?
Edit: Patrick, threadstarter requests that discussion to be kept on topic. Thanks for the co-operation. :)
- Peace
sure. i was just thinking our canals and small waterways are all infested with hybrid cichlids, what could be the cause?

Re: Help ID all these weirdos...

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:48 pm
by Peace
It has a lot to do with fish hobbyists who release unwanted pets into our waterways. I'm guessing cichlids can be naturally crossbred and with all the different cichlids dumped into our waters it's not surprising to see many new 'alien' fishes. I don't think the fish in the original post is a crossbred though.

Re: Help ID all these weirdos...

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:20 pm
by patrick2405
the top one loos like a cross of the mayan and the hybrid 0.o

Re: Help ID all these weirdos...

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:28 pm
by limfish
Still, there chichlids and are fun to catch though.
Good bait for barramundi or fishes that thrive in canals.

Re: Help ID all these weirdos...

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:01 am
by Kst
Sorry to go off topic. I tried using manyan cichlids as live baits, but they died really fast. Feel kind of bad. Is there a way to hook them so that they don't get mortally injured?

Re: Help ID all these weirdos...

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:19 pm
by Peace
Hmm, I've never really tried hooking a cichlid as bait but I reckon it's the same with herrings and scads. Just don't hook too close to the vital parts of the fish and they should be fine. You can try hooking slightly infront of caudal peduncle (the part between the body and tail), this part will give you the most grip. If light casting is used, you hook just below its dorsal fin, but not too deep down the body.

Sometimes the fish dies because of trauma from out of water too long or impact of the cast as well.

Re: Help ID all these weirdos...

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:16 am
by Kst
Peace wrote:Hmm, I've never really tried hooking a cichlid as bait but I reckon it's the same with herrings and scads. Just don't hook too close to the vital parts of the fish and they should be fine. You can try hooking slightly infront of caudal peduncle (the part between the body and tail), this part will give you the most grip. If light casting is used, you hook just below its dorsal fin, but not too deep down the body.

Sometimes the fish dies because of trauma from out of water too long or impact of the cast as well.
Thanks. I think I killed them with the cast :cry:

Re: Help ID all these weirdos...

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:57 am
by mtan8
Patrick2405,
I used to catch a lot of these at the river beside Whampoa South Blk 49 (catch & released). First you need to throw lots of bread (don't waste food. use expired bread or bread skin) to create a frenzy then use a light sinker with 4 hooks. Many huge Tilapia (10 - 11 inches length) and Cichild. Not been there for 2 years though(busy working on my anti-snug tackle for rocky shoreline).