23rd Dec ~ Changi Offshore with Uncle Fong

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23rd Dec ~ Changi Offshore with Uncle Fong

Post by dBs™ » Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:04 pm

As per topic ... Newguy New Adventure ... Changi Offshore ~ :nod:

Will use this as an information center ...
could come in handy for newbies who are interested to tag along any offshore fishing trips.
Of course there can be differences from different trip organizer.
It's total transparent for us ... and 100% cost sharing ! :thumbsup:

* Newguy, if this is your first offshore, I am sure you will have lots of questions in mind be it tackle related or such ...
Just post it up in this thread and we will try our best to assist you.
Hope you gonna enjoy this coming trip with us. :D


Here are the General Informations :


DATE : 23rd December 2011, Friday


TIME : 8:00am (boarding) - fishing time ends around 5:30pm


VENUE : Meeting Place at 8am SHARP ... CHANGI FERRY TERMINAL

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Please do not go to the wrong ferry terminal coz I do have kakis who went to a different terminal ...
And passport is not required ... we are fishing in local waters.


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This is the charter we are taking ... SC3188J and it's captain is the famous uncle Fong !

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Cost Break Down :


Charter ( Boat ) : $400 per trip

Bait ( Live Prawns ) : $35 per Kg @ aunty farm

Ice Blocks : $10

TOTAL COST = Boat $400 + Bait 3Kg $105 + Ice $10 = 515 / no.s of anglers

* KIndly note that the above cost do not include food and drinks. Please prepare own food and drinks.

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This is aunty farm ... which is situated not very far from the ferry terminal.
Uncle Fong will take us to the farm to buy LIVE prawns living in changi waters as bait.
You may enter the farm for a quick look at the giants in aunty's farm while the rest of crew top up the supplies.

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Re: Newguy New Adventure !

Post by dBs™ » Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:33 pm


CONFIRMED ANGLERS @ 23rd December 2011


1 ) Tamban
2 ) William
3 ) Joseph
4 ) Simon
5 ) dBs
6 ) Vidic
7 ) Newguy BACK OUT WITHOUT VALID REASON ON 10/12/2011
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* This trip belongs to Tamban ... so Tamban please update the list ... tks !
* Newguy confirmed via sms ! (22 Nov )

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Re: Newguy New Adventure !

Post by Newguy » Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:34 am

Thanks dBs for all the info u gave me will be asking u alot of question the next few days so i hope i will be a bit patients wif me as i am a newguy to boat fishing..

Thanks for the invitation dBs...
Sorry to confuse u coz I'm still new to this sport...

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Re: Newguy New Adventure !

Post by Newguy » Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:32 pm

Ok dBs this is my weapon of destruction will it be ok for boat fishing...

Rod: Daiwa Jupiter Safari
Model:JSA902HS
Ttl Length:2.70m
Closed Length:1.38m
Section:2pcs
Line:12-40lbs

Reel: Daiwa Sweepfire 4000x
1 Ball Bearing
Gear Ratio:5.3:1

Im using monoline of 20lbs on my reel...

Will my weapon be good for boat fishing????

This is the 1st set of question i will be asking if its ok then i will ask a few more question if not then i will stop here.....
Sorry to confuse u coz I'm still new to this sport...

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Re: Newguy New Adventure !

Post by dBs™ » Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:39 am

hahaha ... relax relax and just take it as a learning trip where we share experiences.
Just post up any queries you might have .... we try our best to help.
Ooh ... do send me a confirmation sms ..k ? thks ;)

Ok here goes ...

Jupiter Safari is a 9FT ROD ! :shocked:
Looks more suitable for shore fishing to me leh ...
The length can post a problem for you when fishing on boat.
Generally for boat fishing ... we do not cast, just drop.
Think this way ... we take a boat out ... boatman reach spot... we drop bait ...
Ain't we directly above the fishy home ? So there is no need to cast at all.

For local bottom fishing ... a good length will be 5'6" - 6'3"
There are of course different boat rod for different type of fishing like heavy bottom, light jigging etc etc
We will just base our discussion for something suitable for Changi waters for now ...

Do you have any shorter rod where you use for in-shore fishing ?
It's not necessary to use a boat rod for offshore but it is definitely good if you have one.
But since it's your first trip, we just see if you can use any of your existing rod.

Reel ... should have no problem coz I did a check and it has 6kg Maximum Drag and Line Capacity of 12lb/240m.
For boat fishing ... main concern when selecting a reel is line cap, how much lines can it load.
You need enough lines to bring your bait to the bottom of sea bed ... and still must have enough lines for fish to run ...
Taking you have loaded 20lbs mono lines ... estimate you should have 120m of lines in your spool ?
It all depends on line thickness to know estimated line cap.

So now your mission is to find a suitable rod to match your Sweepfire ~ :nod:


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Re: Newguy New Adventure !

Post by ilurbtambans » Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:59 pm

I can lend you my Penn power stick if u want :X if I'm not wrong it's 5-6 ft 20-25/30 lbs, this was recommended by alleycat lol

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Re: Newguy New Adventure !

Post by Newguy » Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:05 pm

Ok thanks....

Next Rod in line is a Seahawk Wee-Pro 6'.....Action:Medium Heavy.... Line:10-20lbs...

I thinks this will suit for Boat Fishing am i right....

Btw my name is Suhaimi...dBs will msg u later by 10pm....


Ok.. So the prawn of abt 3kg will be share among all the anglers am i right to say dat... As for sinker can u suggest what size of sinker should i get and how many do i have to get and any more offshore fishing stuff dat i need to get...

So sorry for all the noob Question dat i hv...
Edit: Yes. Everything transparent and cost sharing ... boat, bait and ice. Food and drinks own.
* Should we buy less prawns then cost will be reduced and divided accordingly.
Sorry to confuse u coz I'm still new to this sport...

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Re: Newguy New Adventure !

Post by dBs™ » Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:46 pm

... con't

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Tide pattern for 23rd ...

Ting ting ting ... does it rings a bell ?
It's gonna be a tough day out at sea so kakis ... get ready for some hard fun ~
For first timer ... take an extremely light breakfast ... and be prepared for some rock and roll ! :mischieve:

Tide will be at it's fullest when we set off early in the morning and going down fast and furious till we finish fishing at around 5pm.
So please prepare sinker size 4 and 6 ... if fly kite then combine two to make 10 ! :sweatdrop:

* fly kite means strong current with drifting style of fishing, chances are the sinker will not touch sea bed ... flying like a kite.


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Re: Newguy New Adventure !

Post by Newguy » Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:01 am

Ok dat clears the cost part....

So dBs anymore stuff dat i need to noe and bring along...
Beside my rod and reel...
Sorry to confuse u coz I'm still new to this sport...

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Re: Newguy New Adventure !

Post by dBs™ » Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:13 pm

Food and Drinks ? :lol:

Alright ... besides rod and reel, food and drinks ...
you will need the general fishing tools like leader, sinker, swivel etc etc ...

Let's talk about types of rigs we usually used in Changi waters :

As with any other bottom fishing, LSBF(Long Snood Bottom Feeder) or Apollo are the two common types of rigs used.
Say for example if we are targeting Chermin, apollo is better than LSBF.
Grouper, snapper we use lsbf.

There is however one more interesting gadget you might want to try out ...

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Yes ... the bead !
If you interested to learn how to play with this colour bead thingy ...
It can be purchased from Changi Pro, 3 pcs in a pkt at $3.80 ( i can't remember the actual price )
It's displayed at the wall shelving directly opp the counter inside the shop ( behind the wall where the live prawns are )
And we will show you how to rig it on the day itself.
One pkt is more than enough unless you are sangkot king ... lol !

Ooh ... not to forget ... hook size we using 1/0 - 3/0


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Re: Newguy New Adventure !

Post by Newguy » Wed Nov 23, 2011 7:56 pm

Ok thanks dBs for the info....

BTW i went to joe's today and saw this rod @ $35/- it is seahawk rod of abt 5'-6' long and hv a medium heavy action rod which was place @ the front of the shop will it be suitable for boat fishing....

And also last question whats the best line for offshore fishing is it mono or braided line????

Coz thinking if this 1st offshore fishing really make me hook to it maybe i wanna do a 2nd set of fishing gear for offshore...Lets put it this way 1 set for shore and jetty fishing and 1 set for boat fishing so ttl i will hv 2 set and i wont hv the hassle to keep looking for stuff everytime i wanna go offshore as i already set it aside.... and go thru the hassle again to go for shore and jetty fishing...
Sorry to confuse u coz I'm still new to this sport...

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Re: Newguy New Adventure !

Post by Vidic » Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:14 pm

Hi Newguy, do take note of the ratings of the seahawk rod(For eg, PE1-3 or 10lbs-25lbs). This will help us determine whether the rod is suitable for which usage. Also consider the weight of it, cause u are gonna hold on to it for the whole day :lol: u dont wanna have cramps while a fish takes ur bait ya ? Seahawk is an ok brand to start off with for a beginner, just dont misuse it. Besides, seahawk u also could consider Penn, eupro rods, they are good rods with a reasonable price to start with.

Braided lines are more preferred for offshore fishing.

Yup i do keep offshore sets and shore fishing sets, but i still make reuse the reels though, for eg 5"6 off shore rod with size 4000 shimano reel i could alternate with a lets say 8-10 ft shore rod. :p
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Re: Newguy New Adventure !

Post by Newguy » Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:32 pm

Orite Thanks Vidic.....

Will take into consideration of the weight when buying it later next mth....

I think that will be it for me to ask as its still to early... And i think when the day comes i will meet u guys early as i can ask u guys for more info of offshore fishing and wad to buy and get it on the spot... So u guys can oso show me the considerable stuff to get there.... As i wont be blur buying myself....

Looking forward to meet u guys..... :D
Sorry to confuse u coz I'm still new to this sport...

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Re: Newguy New Adventure !

Post by Vidic » Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:36 pm

Sure do, we could do some shopping before we board, the experts like dBs and tambam will advise u, just be early, lets say reach around 7am. :p Have your breakfast and the tackleshop will be open by then. Its also cost saving ! cause u dont waste money on buying the wrong things. Just get your rod and reel(with braided lines) ready and buy the rest of the stuffs on the day itself, be sure to bring enough cash ! :)
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Re: Newguy New Adventure !

Post by Newguy » Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:52 pm

Thanks Vidic...

Oh yah for the braided line i'm using Daiwa Sweepfire 4000x...Would 30lbs of braided be good enough and wad the minimum weight for the shock and soft shock leader????
Sorry to confuse u coz I'm still new to this sport...

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